by Pellaken
When someone says “bounce in 01” you think “Black Sea” “Galacia” or “English Channel” but you rarely think of “Piedmont” or “Tyrol” or even “Belgium in Fall” These are just some unexpected bounces.
I first came up with the idea of unexpected bounces when playing France and planning to keep an Italy who was turning hostile from turning against me. I realized that we could bounce in Piedmont. Then I began to think of the benefits and drawbacks. I began to realize that I would still get Spain. In addition, with a move to MAO I would get Portugal. I realized that with such a move there is no way that I could not get Spain. “good golly” I realized that this was a great bounce. But then why no literature about it?
I began to think that maybe Italy was part of a deal was not good at all. So I compiled a list of benefits and drawbacks for France and Italy.
Note-all powers have been highlighted in their color for quick reference F R I G A T E {Russia is Purple, its color in Europe}
French Advantages | Italian Advantages |
Get Spain Defend against A Mun-Bur Keep I in a good alliance Better then holding the unit, which is a waste Allows you to have a good southern flank Good for diplomacy, can look like a F-I war Can be used with A to occupy Venice {alliance} | Good defense against unexpected Austrian moves Leaves A Ven-Tyl an option Can not bounce, and screw France over Makes a good alliance early on Allows you to have an early western front Pie is safe from invasion |
French Disadvantages | Italian Disadvantages |
If he does not bounce, loose out on Spain Only Paris can defend Burgundy | Can be used with A to occupy Venice Ties up a unit that can be used in other ways |
So overall, as you can see, this bounce is not a bad idea. It may seem bad, but other bounces have worse disadvantages, but they are still done.
This type of bounce can be used by either nation when they are unsure of alliances with other neighbors. It also can be used in order to achieve a quick alliance with each other. My hope, this bounce is as common as Galacia by next year. I call this move Pellaken’s Gambit.
Another bounce is in Tyrol. There are 2 bounces here, Italy and Austria; Italy and Germany.
Italian Advantages | Austrian Advantages |
Guarantees A cant get you Keeps Venice busy | Can stab I with G support |
Italian Disadvantages | Austrian Disadvantages |
G A alliance can kill you | Holds Vienna back, No bounce in Gal. |
Italian Advantages | German Advantages |
Keeps Venice busy | Guarantees I cant get you Can get support from A |
Italian Disadvantages | German Disadvantages |
G can get A Support | Holds Munich back |
So, in short, any bounce in Tyl is not good unless you have very odd circumstances. It is a possible one, and should not be forgot, but do not expect to see this as a regular opening move.
Russia and Austria also share an unexpected bounce. I am sure this one is easier to see, but rarely done. After reading literature about Austria, I have learned four things
Austro-German alliances will always fail
Austria and Turkey are bad allies
Russia and Austria cannot ally
Austria-Hungary and Italy are not made for long-term alliances
It is hard to believe all four, because if it was true, then Austria is doomed from the start. So, let us look at an Austro-Turkish alliance. A bounce in Rum is exactly what the doctor called for!
Austrian Advantages | Russian Advantages |
Can be used to kill R earlyGood for an A T Alliance | none |
Austrian Disadvantages | Russian Disadvantages |
Leaves Vie to defend against A War-Gal Keeps Bud from taking Serbia | Possible occupation of Black Sea Dooms your nation to a early death |
This bounce, is not the kind of bounce you want to make with your ‘ally’ Russia, but it can come in useful against him.
This is about the extent of bounces in the spring of 1901. All other bounces are useless, {Armenia} or are famous {Galacia}
In Autumn, there are more bounces that can be used.
Belgium can be bounced around in many ways.
France-Germany
France-England
England-Germany
France and England-Germany
All this depends, of course, on spring moves. If Germany takes Holland, and then the joint F-E alliance may be what is needed.
Anglo-French Advantages | German Advantages |
Keeps Belgium out of German hands Creates trust, good for an alliance | Keeps the E-F alliance happy {negotiated bounce} Keeps units valuable F-E units busy |
Anglo-French Disadvantages | German Disadvantages |
Too easy for a stab to destroy Keeps units valuable units busy | May destroy all planned {Un-negotiated bounce} Limits growth |
And if Germany went F Kie-Den
F Advantages | E Advantages | G Advantages |
Keeps Belgium empty Removes Early Leader Syndrome Can make an easy 2v1 stab | Keeps Belgium empty Can make an easy 2v1 stab | Keeps Belgium empty Removes Early Leader Syndrome Can make an easy 2v1 stab |
F Disadvantages | E Disadvantages | G Disadvantages |
Limits growth Hard to set up Can make an easy 2v1 stab | Limits growth Hard to set up Can make an easy 2v1 stab | Limits growth Hard to set up Can make an easy 2v1 stab |
Approximately, these are the ratings for Belgian nationality:
France = 28.5%; England = 25.8%; Germany = 23.3%; 22.3% -not taken
This from: http://uk.diplom.org/pouch/Zine/S1998M/Anon/1901.html
It seems as if Belgium is the only thing that keeps the 3 western powers from agreeing on anything! Who not then get rid of the argument altogether?
Another unexpected bounce is that in Holland or Denmark by England.
English Advantages | German Advantages |
Good counter to Jutland Gambit Can be used in coordination with R Keeps G to 4 centers, possibly | none |
English Disadvantages | German Disadvantages |
Loss of use of Nth fleet. | Loss of an expected center Unexpected, its a real surprise |
And the last bounce is one in Greece, where the Turkey can force Austria out of a center.
Turkish Advantages | Austrian Advantages |
Keep A down to 4 centers or less Good prelude to war | Could get I on your side |
Turkish Disadvantages | Austrian Disadvantages |
Can not bounce, and loose Bulgaria. Hard to fix diplomatic damage done | Loss of an expected center |
This bounce can often lead to war, but it also can lead to Turkish victory.
So, in short, what can be learned here?
Well I have compiled a short list:
1-call the Pie bounce Pellaken’s Gambit, so I become famous J
2-look for these and other unexpected bounces
3-always remember, the best moves, are unexpected ones